tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post113951587274425013..comments2024-01-21T11:10:06.779-06:00Comments on Michael Allyn Wells: Thursday ramblingsMichael A. Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06015233939646285069noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139762176704670482006-02-12T10:36:00.000-06:002006-02-12T10:36:00.000-06:00::sigh:: Although this subject has achieved respon...::sigh:: Although this subject has achieved response, I had hoped it would spark some real debate on the value of poetry to society. That is why I specifically gave poetry a catagory all by itself. <BR/><BR/>So what has happened? I have Missi who whats to give every penny to poetry and nolapoet who weighed in at $25 or a quarter of the entire budget. The rest of you ignored poetry as a seperate catagory. <BR/><BR/>Kevin and Julie bot made observations that show a good deal of though about what is needed in society today from an ecucation standpoint, but I was hopeful that we could be more specific about poetry's value. <BR/><BR/>So, I will share with you some of my own thoughts on the subject later this week. <BR/><BR/>In the interum, people are certainly welcome to continue to express their 2 cents or $100 worth as the case may be.Michael A. Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015233939646285069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139691161577180632006-02-11T14:52:00.000-06:002006-02-11T14:52:00.000-06:00What Kevin Said!What Kevin Said!Michelle M. Buchananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18272048344542843224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139672766138406222006-02-11T09:46:00.000-06:002006-02-11T09:46:00.000-06:00$10 to each. I don't see the point in privileging ...$10 to each. I don't see the point in privileging one subject more than any other. If students are to discover their potential and develop into unique individuals, they should have the opportunity to explore a wide range of subjects--that means <B>math</B> & <B>poetry</B>. <BR/><BR/>Also, it seems to me that many of these subjects cross over into others. Shouldn't art be a part of any good Social Studies class? Shouldn't poetry be included in any English Class? And if you happen to be theoretically inclined, math is going to play a part in the study of music. <BR/><BR/>I agree with Julie that "we need to teach people to think logically...to understand the world." I don't think that scaling education in terms of an arbitrary value like <I>importance</I> is the way to go about it though. The problem isn't that poetry is low on most people's scale. The problem is that <I>learning</I> in general is low on most people's scale. Think about it; higher education today is in most cases nothing more than trade school (not that there's anything wrong with trade school, but there should be a difference). How many students go to college these days because they are attracted to the <I>beauty of math</I> (http://www.valdosta.edu/~cbarnbau/phys_math/p2.html)? Few, I would think. <BR/><BR/>If we spent less time trying to push our own personal agendas (and yes, mine would be in favor of poetry), if we stopped viewing education as merely a step on the ladder to a good job, and if we spent more time trying to foster curiosity and imagination, the desire to learn because learning is fun, students would naturally come to poetry and art. <BR/><BR/>Or am I too idealistic?Kevin Andre Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842238481549571107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139623868538167992006-02-10T20:11:00.000-06:002006-02-10T20:11:00.000-06:00$25 to poetry, $25 to foreign language, $25 to Eng...$25 to poetry, $25 to foreign language, $25 to English, $25 to history. The jocks and scientists will find money on their own. $0 to "education" and its pedant-gogues!nolapoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01729185501953937947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139598623577982302006-02-10T13:10:00.000-06:002006-02-10T13:10:00.000-06:00I was lumping science in with math.And yeah, I kno...I was lumping science in with math.<BR/><BR/>And yeah, I know that a lot of people would be screaming, but I'm a big girl and I've got earplugs. :DJulie Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878713173193835861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139587080635535892006-02-10T09:58:00.000-06:002006-02-10T09:58:00.000-06:00I had to parcel it out separately to gauge what or...I had to parcel it out separately to gauge what or how people viewed poetry's value to society against other areas.Michael A. Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015233939646285069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139571464654597352006-02-10T05:37:00.000-06:002006-02-10T05:37:00.000-06:00$100 to poetry and screw the rest (especially math...$100 to poetry and screw the rest (especially math). Everything you need to know you can learn from poetry, or, um, isn't that the saying? Interesting that you put poetry in a category by itself instead of with English.Missihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06098310199457044161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139537033401898502006-02-09T20:03:00.000-06:002006-02-09T20:03:00.000-06:00Ok, I won't load the gun just yet... you did say n...Ok, I won't load the gun just yet... you did say nice things about baseball. <BR/><BR/>I kept thinking I was leaving something off the list- and I did ::sigh:: Science. <BR/><BR/>I'm not going to sound in on my own just yet. I really don't want to influence the discussion till we've had more participants.<BR/><BR/>I will just say that having seen your budget I think I hear screaming voices from From ALL of the Arts and of course P.E. <BR/><BR/>The entire athletic department is picketing. The Home Economics folks are so hot, they burnt their cookies. The shop teacher was heard wondering aloud if the $40 to math might allow in the future people to learn to parcel money out in something other than 20's and multipals thereof. <BR/><BR/>But hey, My mouth is zipped. I wanna hear more!Michael A. Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015233939646285069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5759055.post-1139535009174942232006-02-09T19:30:00.000-06:002006-02-09T19:30:00.000-06:00I'm going to be such a heretic and you're going to...I'm going to be such a heretic and you're going to shoo me from your presence, but... well... $40 to Math, $20 to English, $20 to Foreign Language, and $20 to History.<BR/><BR/>We need to teach people to think logically, to write and communicate effectively, and to understand the world. If they have this background, they will come to poetry and art on their own.<BR/><BR/>And poetry is exactly like baseball. It's slow and methodical and harder than it looks and God, it's gorgeous when it works the way it should.Julie Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878713173193835861noreply@blogger.com